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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 am 
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It's always best to soft solder connections on 12v circuits....The wire core count on Kwackers is near minimum spec so adding billet connectors causes load/resistance....those who Know of elecspasity wizardy will know of the calculation I have not forgotten but decided to ignore when i first heard/read it !!

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This was how I got this bike a few weeks ago. I believe yorkie said that my front harness is the newer harness. Not sure. But I'm definitely gonna solder and heatshrink it.. quick question the star knobs on my fork suspension is that for the 17mm nut or the flat heads crew. When I turn it the flathead screw also moves. Should i do the knobs first then the flathead screw? How many turns or clicks does the flathead screw go? Didnt hear it clicking either.


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May be this will help,not sure myself never worked on a C
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:54 pm 
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Thanks .I saw the video before. But it's those aftermarket knobs that was my question. I think I can sort it with the manual. I found a link to a manual and downloaded it. Not as easy as the book but it will do for now. Eye strainer lol.

I pulled the tank today and airbox. I soldered the 2 wires and heat shrunk. Pretty happy there. I have the stock headlight for the cb900c Its a 7 inch headlight . Im going to mount that in the meantime. Way better lighting. Maybe in the future I'll get something more sleek. But this will do. I primed it. going to paint it satin black. Tomorrow I'll remove the old headlight and solder the harness plug to the 7 inch.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:23 pm 
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This was what I did. Added the stock headlight from the 1980 cb900 works great. A bit bulky but will do for now. I took my clock apart I sanded the lense with 1000 grit ,1200 and 1500.if I had 2000 and 3000 I could leave it looking like glass .got all of the junk out looks very good. Then i polished it. With brasso lol. Since my speedo light was out I took the bulb from the high beam indicator and swapped it.till I can get sum new bulbs .worked perfect. I tucked all the connectors and 2 relays into the headlight bucket. Now time to adjust the chain. Those mirrors ste going away for sum bar end mirrors


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:02 pm 
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Ehh what a headache. I soldered the wire under the tank like suggested. I put on a new headlight I had laying around . I went to put gas rode like 6 miles yesterday hi lo beam working perfectly. Today the headlight not coming on. All fuses are good none blown turn signals and brake light works horn works.then I touch the yellow and black wire under the seat . It gave me low beam no high beam after messing with it some more it went out again no hi or lo beam.i switched the headlight relays so I know they both work. What could it be ? The yellow and black wire is on a plug connector to the battery .


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That Black/yellow wire is the Wiring Loom Earth, so make sure it has a good connection in that plug and at the battery negative.

There are also earths under the fuel pump mounting bracket, actually 2 under it, a Black/yellow and a Black/blue make sure both of these are clean and making good contact to the frame.

and while you're checking them make sure the big fat black cable from the negative battery terminal has good contact with the engine at the other end.

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Also it looks like you have an E loom fitted, as the C's don't have that earth connector plug as the have a bullet connector. I would need to see more pictures of the rest of the stuff under the seat and if there is a cam position sensor fitted by the number one exhaust header.

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No cam position sensor by exhuast header #1.i guess tomorow I'll take it apart and check connections.its freezing out 32F feels like 26F working outside in the cold ain't fun. Thanks a million yorkie. If I woulda known this was hacked I probably woulda never traded. Smh

Let's see.how it is tomorrow. Weather wise. Going to pull the tail and the tank to check the grounds by the fuel pump as yorkie mentioned. Going to give the whole loom a good checking. And I'm going to put fresh brake fluid and a good bleed.

Yorkie do you suspect that it's a bad ground?


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Sounds like you have an E engine and loom in your bike, that regulator has E plugs I would need to see the ECU to be sure.

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2mins be right back.

So what does this mean ? Good ? Bad?

And do you suspect my headlight issue can be a bad ground?? Since playing with the yellow and black wire that goes.to the - battery terminal I got low beam but no high beam?

It's crazy because when I parked it yesterday after a few miles and a fill up everything was working perfectly fine I was even checking my headlight adjustment making sure it wasnt to high. Then i shut it off and today no headlight. I didnt move it.nothing just turned it on.

I ruled out the headlight relays while the low beam was working I swapped them and the relay for the high beam works.

It.cant be because the high beam indicator bulb is out because it worked yesterday hi and lo beam without the high beam indicator on the clock. I also checked all my connections up at the forks everything good there. The headlight connection plug all good.

We did get very cold weather last night and today like low 20s F. And it felt like 10F this morning .the bike started with no issues. But no headlight. And my turn signals brake light running light and horn work .no blown fuses either.i checked them all. Back to playing inspector gadget :-({|=

Under the tank that was the bullet connector I cut out, ugly crimp connection also. and soldered the wire. I hate shit not done right [-X

The other pic is the headlight plug. I like to put hot glue in the ends to keep the connections solid in place.

Yorkie what's up with this fuse coming from the harness to the positive battery connection?
Is That oem ? If not how can I make it stock? Really not a fan of that fuse and then battery connection definitely doesn't look oem


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OK, that's definitely not a C loom probably an E loom, but I can't read the ECU part number to know for sure where its an E or F loom.
That brown wire with the bullet connector is the switched feed from the white wire in the ignition switch, it then feeds the fuse box to the rest of the bike, except the 20amp yellow fuse which is the main supply for the headlights.

Yes, I would check the earths, as these can throw up strange faults as different systems use different amounts of power. eg Hi/Low headlights.

You said the low beam works so we know the feed to the lefthand switching unit is ok, now you can either check the voltages going to the two relays (we can use the working one for comparison) or hold the relays while throwing the Hi/Low switch and feeling for if the relay is working, this will let you know if it's being tripped or not. Now the White/black is the feed from the battery, and the Red/yellow is the Hi relay tripping voltage from the lefthand switching unit.

On another note, the fuse box is normally held in place by a rubber mount forward of where it is now, and the ECU is mounted where you have the fuse box.
Note the part number is for the UK version and has fewer components in it, also I've shown 2 rubber mounts showing both sides, but there is only one needed.
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C model layout, your E should be similar. I modded my UK c model for the headlights to come on after the engine is running, which is what yours already does.
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Yorkie thank you. The low beam worked when I moved the yellow and black wire to the - battery terminal. While the low beam was working i went ahead an switched the relays to see. And both relays work got low beam working after testing the other relay. So it's not the relays. BUT I continued to mess with the yellow and black wire and then the low beam went out also. No headlight at all again. The ecu model # starts 21119- I'll take a better pic later when it warms up a bit. When I get the funds I'll order the rubber boots for the ECU and the junction box. I'll definitely be reorganizing under the seat. Yorkie what's the point of having a connection from the - battery terminal to the yellow and black wire from the harness ?? Should the yellow an black wire be straight to the battery ??

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Theres only a rubber holding boot for the fuse/junction box.

I think the idea of the Black/yellow wire plug is just for maintenance. :|

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Thank you Sir. :ys .I'm going to respectfully call you the "NINJA WHISPERER " =D> . Hopefully soon I'll go down an take everything off again to.do a inspection of the harness again. And to check those grounds. I'm going to start it up and see if the headlight comes on before I do anywork.lol. I'm going to chop the connector yorkie to the battery and crimp an solder a eye connection straight to the battery. too many different contacts points for me. And it was wen I push the yellow black wire up into the connector was when I got the low beam to come on. So the yellow blackcwire.direct to the battery. The P.O put a 40 amp fuse in the headlight fuse to the positive of the battery going to 20 like u said. I hope I can solve this issue .if not I'm just going to put the led bar straight to the battery with a on off switch at the triple tree. I really would like.to solve this issue though .hopefully the grounds by the fuel pump are dirty or loose and that solves it :-k


Starting to remind me of the cb900 build lol


Update** I turned the bike on before working on it and sure enough the low beam works again but no high beam. Last night it wasnt coming on at all after messing with the yellow black wire connection.


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